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    February 3, 2013
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some of the lights have been coming back on in the superdome, but we've been watching. play was interrupted just a short time ago. just after the half-time show. a great half-time show with beyonce. again, no power -- shouldn't say no power, but power interrupted. it was dark, almost pitch black for a while, now the power is slowly going back on. apparently -- who do we have now? mark mckay from cnn sports joins us live. mark, what can you tell us? >> i can tell you the good news is most of the lights are back on now, don, after about a 25-minute delay. this occurred at the start of the second half, actually, the explosive baltimore raven offense came out in the second half with a 109-yard kickoff return for a touchdown, the longest in super bowl history. san francisco had gotten the ball back 13:22 of the third quarter on third and 14, bam. not the entire stadium, the
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entire dome did not go out, but a really good portion of the dome, including the middle section and all of the scoreboard went completely dark. >> this is really unprecedented and it was interesting to sit here in the newsroom and watch and get people's reaction on social media, because the ravens were really charging ahead of the 49ers, which was unexpected, because most people's money, mark, as you know, was on the san francisco 49ers. >> the niners need to make the biggest comeback in super bowl history to get back into this came. colin kaepernick and company were trying, now they slowed their momentum. the players during this delay, many of them, were on the sidelines, on the field, stretching it out. as we speak now, looks like most of the lighting system here, apparently had to reboot the system and get these lights back on. as we sit here in the upper level of the superdome, it looks
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like most of the lights are back on. scoreboards are not on, scoreboards are still dark, but players are trying to stay loose during this unusual super bowl delay, don. >> mark mckay, stay with me here, getting a little more information. mark, as you said, they were wondering if they were going to take the players off the field and take them back to the locker room, if they were going to have to postpone the game for a little bit, but the coaches and officials decided to keep the players on the field, had them stretch on the field, to keep them limber, keep them warm. i'm getting a bit of wire here into cnn. they said a large swath of lights in the superdome went out, one-half of the lights in the new orleans stadium upper tier went dark with the baltimore ravens leading, of course, the san francisco 49ers. later an announcement heard inside the superdome indicated the lights would be restored momentarily, then a short time later it says the lights began
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going on shortly and during the outage the players stayed on the field, talking to one another and keeping fresh for once play resumed there and the spectators largely stayed in their seats. it kills the momentum and one wonders if play resumes what's going to happen, if the 49ers start to surge, if they are going to say, you know what, the ravens lost their momentum because of this, but, you know, you can see the officials are upset now because of things that are happening and wondering if they are going to lose their momentum and what this is going to do once play does resume, mark. >> don, there's been a few announcements during this for fans to remain in their seats. over 75,000 fans have been good natured about this. everybody's been very calm. in fact, you know, they've been calm the way it started up inside the superdome. everybody's taking it in good nature and waiting for a delay that's now stretched almost 30
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minutes. the lights went out in the superdome, about 30 minutes now. appears to be cycling back again. the movement on the field, both ravens and the 49ers taking passes, doing running, think about this moment, don, for these players. they've gotten this far, then for this to happen, they certainly didn't expect this. >> yeah, absolutely. as we're looking at the pictures now outside the superdome, we can see the lights on here. the grids of lights that are starting to be restored inside the superdome, and what the initial announcements were, they had to do an initial reset and that reset was going to take anywhere from 15 to 30 minutes, and so far it has stretched on to about 25 to 30 minutes now with all of the lights still not back on. most of them back on inside of the superdome now. and as we are looking sat some of the pictures, it appears most are back on, but still not all of them. as you're looking in there, are you seeing -- they may be able
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to do it without the scoreboard and do, you know, do it the old-fashioned way, but they have to have lights on in the stadium. >> i can tell you, the scoreboards have been relit. it's 13:22 in the third quarter. ravens with a 28-6 lead. san francisco driving third and 13 at the 40 yard line. one of the main scoreboards, there's a sign that reads, we have experienced a partial interruption, please remain in your seats and service will be restored momentarily. >> mark, it appears to me that the players are slowly starting to trickle back on the field, is that your assessment as you're looking? >> yes, the ball sits at the 40 yard line, official standing over the ball. looks like we're going to go back to playing the super bowl, don. >> let's hope so. mark mckay from cnn sports joining us from down in new orleans inside the superdome where there was a problem there for about 30 minutes with the
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lights. power was out. intergy, the power company, says there was a problem with the grid but it was specifically inside the superdome, was not a problem any place outside the superdome, surrounding area, neighborhoods, it was specifically inside the superdome. as we are looking here from my vantage point and our reporter inside the stadium, looks like the play is about to get under way again inside the superdome. make sure you stay with cnn. if there's another problem down at the super bowl with the lights or anything else, we'll bring it to you live on cnn. in the meantime, i'm don lemon, we'll keep an eye on that. we're going to send you now to "piers morgan tonight" in progress. diversity and openness, an endless capacity for risk and a gift for reinvention.
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my fellow americans, we are made for this moment. and we will seize it, so long as we seize it together. >> the president there sounding upbeat. acknowledging it's been a tough time. there are challenges obviously ahead. how is he doing do you think? a lot of this comes from the leader in terms of the spirit of a country. in terms of its ability to resurge, if you like. is obama the right man? do you like what you see for maybe the second term obama already? >> i love the man. i voted for him originally. i actually went to a meeting with 18 of the top tech executives, the guys who started google. and in the meeting, everybody was a big supporter. i said, mr. president, i love your heart. i absolutely believe in your intelligence. i know you care. i voted for you the first time but i said i would love to know how it's going to be different -- this is prior to the election -- when there's such demonization going on. i think that's the significant problem in our country. it's not one person. we used to be able to have a dialogue. today it's you're right, you're wrong. that process happens in the gun debate, it's happening everywhere in this country. i had a conversation with him
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and said, listen, if you think the solution that you're telling me you're going to do in your next term is you're going to raise taxes on the wealthy, i'm more than willing to pay that. i'm supportive of that. but that will raise $80 billion. even less now because they cut it from 250 as the cutoff. that will run the country for eight days. $10.4 billion a day. that's not even going to scratch the $1.1 trillion. what else are we going to do? he said i think what will happen is the republicans will have a kick-around and we'll start working together. i said as long as there's demonization, there's no chance of coming up with an intelligent compromise. that's the single issue that's got to shift. one man grabbed my hand, i think that's enough of this conversation. he said no, he said tony has given us creative tension and he pulled me aside and said, come to the white house and we'll talk about this. we have to have a unifying message. we're missing that right now. >> as you say, something's changed in america.
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there was this great, all encompassing superpower. now there are many rivals for that position. that will increase over the next few decades. america has to respond. it can't respond perhaps in the way it would have done 50 years ago. >> the president has his hands full, to be fair. he talked about the worst day of his presidency with sandy hook. he's dealt with things most people don't have to deal with. but you're right, there needs to be unifying vision. someone is saying, kennedy, we're going to go to space, or have this war on poverty. right now our goals are to pay our bills. it's hard to get people to find a way to power themselves when what they're aspiring to is depressing. that's not just the president's fault, it's true, the leadership of our country has to say, here's where we're going to go. we can pay our bills and we're going to be okay. to be fair to the president, i think when you see tears in his eyes, it's about the issue of there being a future for young people for the next generation.
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i think he really sincerely cares. >> tell me this. what is this future going to be in terms of america incorporated as a business model? because a lot of the things that america used to be great for, manufacturing, for example, they've changed so dramatically and become so global, you can't really go back and do that again. even if you have the money to do it. america needs to find other business models, doesn't it? >> it is. it's in the middle of it. we're in the middle of that process. in manufacturing, there's been growth primarily because we found the new technologies to bring us energy. we have more natural gas than saudi arabia has oil. so there's some changes. people are coming back here because it's cheaper to do business in america. i think what's more important is the average american. the average american, if we're sitting and waiting for th government to come up with the answer for us, the president to come up with a vision, you'll have a problem. if you've been on unemployment for 12 million americans, those jobs probably aren't coming back. it's time to retool and say where is the next opportunity, is it in health care, is it in green. where am i going to get the skills. the government is going to step
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up and say here's a pathway. you've got to find it yourself. >> how morally responsible should big, successful companies, we've seen starbucks do this, apple dip its toe in the water. >> you talked about that the last time i was on. >> apple has since then done so. it was a start. but it's about the principle, really, of great american companies in the tech world. they lead the world. but a lot of the stuff's outsourced outside of america. that doesn't really help the american jobs market, even though by being successful companies they do in that way. >> yes. i think you've got to look at it in the context, talking about looking back through history. if you and i were having this discussion 100 years ago, 40% of americans were farmers. today it's 2%, and we don't just feed america, we feed the world. it's a chance for us to take those resources and redeploy them. what's missing is the leadership saying here's where you've got to go. i donated 1 million meals last
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year personally. my foundation, 4 million meals. if you take people for two years and take care of them and don't give them new skills, they lose confidence. they lose certainty. and i find that they're going to become institutionalized and not be a part of the new future. i think our job is to say here are the tools to get you to the next level of your life, so you can create the new american revolution. >> when you talk about this transformation, the post-traumatic stress in all its guises to post-traumatic growth, what do you mean by that? >> most people know about post-traumatic stress, and it severely affects them for the rest of their life, they can't sleep, nightmares. but there are people who have gone through the exact same trauma and they found in themselves the drive where they're no longer broken and they heal. there's three things people find who have done the studies on. if you make it to the growth side, where you're expanding and able to deal with it, the number one thing is you find out you're more powerful than anything you
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ever thought. you're bigger than any event. if you're still alive. second, you find out who your real friends are. not your facebook friends, your friends who show up, and those relationships, they deepen. the third thing is, it's almost like you have antibodies. you have this set of muscles that allow you to deal with things in the future. what people do in that area is they -- >> zon don lemon live here in thaent. breaking news out of new orleans and the superdome when about half the lights in the stadium went out just as the third quarter started. lights are starting to come back on now and play is resuming. let's go to cnn's joe carter. joe, what's going on? >> well, at this point, we're actually playing football, thankfully. all the lights are back on and the ravens have the football, but just a short time ago we did experience a pretty big power outage. i would say probably 75% of the
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lights were out. the jumbotron was out, scoreboard out, and we're just getting a -- looks like we're getting a statement in from a spokesperson of the provider saying we are providing power to the dome, whatever the issue is, it's on their side of the equation. we are providing service as usual, all of new orleans is fine. at this point, they've got everything back up and running and are playing football, but for about 30 minutes we were looking at each other saying, wow, this has to be one of the weirdest super bowl events to ever occur. >> joe, stand by, it was odd to watch to see the superdome there in the dark. the last time it was, under much worse circumstances, hurricane katrina. the spokesman for intergy says the problem was confined to the stadium itself. as joe said, we're providing to the dome and the power in the rest of new orleans is fine.
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about ten minutes -- well, the lights in the new orleans stadium in the upper tier went dark when the ravens were leading the san francisco 49ers 28-6, again, that was in the third quarter just after the half-time show. beyonce just performed. then about ten minutes later indicated lights would be restored momentarily, then the lights started coming back on slowly during the outage and the players stayed on the field talking to one another and stretching and then waiting for the play to resume. spectators followed the requests to remain in their seats and that's what they did the entire time. fully under play right now, joe carter, seems everything is back to normal inside the stadium and it didn't disrupt anything for now. no upset people or coaches, everything's going on fine? joe carter? >> john, i can barely hear you, my man.
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it's extremely loud in the superdome, but as i said, all power back, jumbotron's working, lights are working, both teams are playing. we experienced about a 30-minute delay. odd watching the teams look at each other and try to stretch it out and keep loose in what is the biggest game of their careers, lives. you have to think that was a big momentum stopper for the ravens. they were leading 28-6, then the lights go out in the dome. right now, we're up and running and they are playing football, don. >> okay. hang on one second. joe, stand by. i know it's hard for you to hear me, but i'm going to keep you there anyway until we finish. this is from "the new york times" -- super bowl blackout is inspiring some sponsors to jump in on social media, take advantage of the stoppage of the game, brands like oreo,
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walgreens also chiming in. they are taking to social media trying to get into some of this for their brands, as well. anyway, we're going to leave it at that. joe carter down in new orleans, thank you very much. we appreciate it. super bowl xlvii. if you weren't interested in the teams playing, this got your interest, i would imagine just to tune over to see how the announcers were stretching and what the players were doing got some people's attention. i'm don lemon, all back to normal in new orleans at that building you're looking at right now, the new orleans superdome. if anything goes awry, we'll be live at 10:00 p.m. eastern. back now to piers morgan already in progress. >> ma'am, we've got a school
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shooting. ma'am? what school? >> chardon high school. everyone's running away. >> where is the student with the gun? >> i don't know. he was in the cafeteria and everyone started running. >> that was a chilling 911 call from last february's deadly high school shooting in ohio. a 17-year-old opened fire killing three students and wounding three others, including our next guest. tony robbins is my special guest of the hour. welcome to you both. >> thank you. >> i remember this happening. another outrage involving guns in america. let me start with you, nick, if i may. you were shot four times. you were paralyzed after what happened. you're in a wheelchair now. the moment that you were shot, what goes through your mind? >> what i really -- what was going through my mind was i had to get out of the high school. and really, nothing else flows through your mind. you've just got to get away.
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you don't have time to think about anything else. >> you were a fit, young sports-loving boy at school, suddenly you're in a wheelchair. the moment of realization for you when you know that that is going to be certainly for the foreseeable future, your new life, it must be a crushing thing to have to deal with. how did you deal with it? >> i had a lot of support. the community, my friends, and my family. probably the best thing that i could ever ask for. >> did you despair? >> i mean, i did, yeah. i did. but like i said, the community, friends and family did help me out. and they helped me not be so upset about what really happened. i've just got to move on. >> nick, i'm curious, was there a stage where some part of you just realized if i stay in this
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place of pain, it will be for the rest of my life, and then you made a decision to change? or what do you think helped you to start to make the shift besides your family? what was it that they did that helped you? >> well, i had a lot of support from other people texting me and calling me that are in wheelchairs. and one of them's scott hasel. he's in a wheelchair. a great guy. he answers any question i have. >> was he involved in the shooting as well? >> no. he wasn't. he was in a diving accident. >> he was able to talk you through, i guess, the psychological journey you were going to go on. >> right. >> because he's been there. >> yeah. because he's paralyzed, too. he knows exactly what i went through. people will tell me, you know, yeah, i know. if i tell them it's hard for me,
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they'll be like, yeah, i know. >> but they don't know. >> you don't know. >> somebody who's been paralyzed, and let me come to you, this is every mother's nightmare. this is your son. he's 17, as he was at the time. and suddenly his whole life changes. i guess your first feeling is, thank god he's alive. and then you have to deal with the fact that he's paralyzed. what was it like for you as his mother? >> it really didn't happen that way. it was -- i think it was just denial at first. i said, nick was shot. then somebody said, oh, he was shot through the shoulder. you know, you're like, okay, what happened? what is going on? you see it all over the news. and then when i got to the hospital it was a lot different. it was like, wow, this is my son. and i just remember him looking at me and he said, mom, i can't feel my legs. and that was one of the hardest things to hear in your whole life, you know.
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>> what is the prognosis, nick? >> they said that they were cautiously optimistic when they came out of surgery. so we're still hoping and praying. you never know. >> tony, it's interesting, listening to nick there, that for all the love and support you can get from family, obviously led by holly, but many friends, family, texting and all that, that's helpful. >> yes. >> in making you feel a little bit better. but actually, it was really the words from a young man who had been through a similar thing. is that something you should look for? a particular support group, knows exactly what you've been through. >> it's somebody who's been through it, but has an outlook that's positive. we call it a compelling future. all human beings when we go through trauma, what gets us through today is if we have a promising tomorrow. tomorrow may not be that i'm able to run, but tomorrow is, i can have a beautiful relationship, i can make a difference in the world. i can become a person who has impact. that's the number one thing.
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something that makes you say, there's something i value more than my today pain. and it's a tomorrow that i want to create for myself. he has that. you can see it in his eyes. we talked a little bit beforehand. the second thing that usually gets people through this, and i say through it, have a quality lifestyle. there are people who have all the use of their limbs and have a horrible life. they live in pain and frustration. and there have been people through hell on earth and they have magnificent lives. if managing your own thoughts and self-discipline and self-control, but it's also having a mission bigger than yourself. since you've been helped, i talk about each one teach one, i wonder if you might be interested in going with me to some of the families at sandy hook and doing what was done for you. you're already doing unbelievably well. i had a chance to meet you backstage. i think you could go to another level. what do you think of that? >> i would love that. >> let's do it together. >> all right. >> shake on it? >> he came to me a few days
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after the tragedy at sandy hook and said that me and some of my friends want to go there. we want to talk to them and tell them how it feels, you know, that you're going to be angry, you're going to be sad. every day is going to be so different. >> yes. >> and it will come back. then it will go away. >> there are two traumatic situations. one is being paralyzed. the other one is actually having been shot in a massacre situation, which is really the stuff of nightmares. i suppose my question for you is, how hard is it for you? you seem such a calm, confident young man, despite what's happened to you. how hard is it when other shootings happen, and you hear or read about it? does that bring it all back? >> yeah. it brings me a little confusion, too. like i just don't understand why all this happens. this isn't what america was made for.
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you know, it's just sad. it's really sad. >> what can really make the difference is things happen in life, and when they're meaningless, the pain never goes away. i don't know the meaning. i have the use of my legs. people who have dealt with your situation is when they can find, because this happened, i can make something else better for another human being. that's when there's a positive meaning. you don't wish it on anybody. but only people who have gone through spiritual pain have the spiritual strength to heal other people. i don't mean it in a religious sense. you saying it is different than piers or i or someone else. you have that power, because you made that shift in yourself. this can be the beginning of that journey. >> what ambitions do you have? has it changed your outlook? do you have particular goals now? obviously one would be to get out of the wheelchair. but aside from that. have you set things for yourself things that you really want to achieve? >> well, obviously, i had to
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switch around my career a little bit that i was aiming for. but i really just want a good career. >> what would you want to be? >> i wanted to be just an electrician, in the union. i don't believe that can happen practically right now. so i'm actually taking an auburn class, which is an alternative study class for any electrical components. i'm going to switch to small electronics instead. >> good for you. >> i'll see what i can do with that. >> same kind of thing, just a different way of doing it. >> right. >> which is adapting to what's happened to you. nick, holly, thank you so much for coming in. it's an inspiring story in many ways, an awful story. i think your attitude is absolutely the right one. i think it's right, go to sandy hook and help there. they'll be desperately trying to figure out what their lives are going to be like. it's a great example of how you give back and get on with things. thank you very much. >> thank you. >> when we come back, tony and i
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i've been to combat five times. see what i've seen. the death, the funerals, been
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around a bunch of explosions. i have light sensitivity, and ptsd. i've been through so much trauma. >> here on the front lines, speaking out about his troubled journey back from war, casey wilson. served in afghanistan, kosovo and iraq. tony robbins helped him overcompost traumatic stress disorder, something a lot of soldiers suffer from. it's powerful and moving address you gave there. you can see the physical effects. you were shaking and you've clearly been through all sorts of trauma, in different ways. before you met tony, what was your life like? >> i was doing a lot of current therapy, you know, psychiatry, psychology, which i started in 2011. 2010, i started doing -- trying to figure out my life, because i
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went through a second divorce. and so i didn't understand the whole process, why was i feeling this way? so i started to seek treatment at that time. i was going to acupuncture, healing touch, meditation. >> did it help, any of that? >> yes. it was helping to an extent, you know. like i said, i was just 20-plus years in the marine corps. i had severe trauma at a child which i never realized was a problem until, you know, i just added more stuff after more stuff in my life. >> why don't you tell them what your symptoms were at the time. >> basically insomnia. i would probably sleep four or five hours a night, but i would wake up 45 minutes to every hour. i would have severe tremors. i was -- before i knew of my light sensitivity, i always had headaches and migraines. i would have to go into dark
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rooms, take a nap. and, you know, i would just be breaking down myself in a sense. >> what was the rock bottom moment for you? >> the rock bottom moment for me, in a sense, was -- it was after my second divorce. just being -- i pushed so many people away. i couldn't figure out why i felt this way. i deployed eight times. you know, i went to combat four times, but i count my life as my fifth combat. you know, deployment. i've been fighting myself prior to -- in my younger age, until my age i am, 39 years old, when i went to date with destiny december 1st where, you know, i needed to get a little bit of motivation, because here i am about to retire from the marine corps. >> tony, there are tens of thousands of american service men and women who go through similar trauma. it's been a terrible period for
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the american military. constantly in combat in various countries. what do you say in that situation? >> it isn't just saying. we've done this with hundreds of wounded warriors and different soldiers. inside every human being, we have trauma. his was extreme trauma. there's a personality in him that was beyond wounded. but inside of everyone, there's a part of you that's whole and strong. that's truly untouched by the experience. so what i had to do is find out -- he was trying to express his pain, and i felt that. then i got him to connect to a part of himself that is whole. this part you can see on camera, we gave it a name. the name was tigger. when he changed to that kind of personality, his glasses came off, he was able to see without the headaches. he stopped tremoring. he had been shaking like this for hours. all that stopped literally in minutes. an hour later he was on stage with a group of, about 2,500 people from 80 countries rocking them, sharing his mission for his life. he found something greater than his pain. he found something he wanted to
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serve, like he served for his country. now it's to serve other people. >> is that a regular people for people coming out of combat zones, i have military people in my family, and when they're home, they get listless and restless, and start to feel strange, just not being where they're used to being, in that dangerous environment. >> we don't know how to open up, or express our -- tell our story either. that's also part of the problem. and the other part, too, as well, is being accepted in society. you know, because there's a brotherhood in the services around the world. and we have a problem when we come out of the service, you know, to the civilian world where people will judge us and use -- if they find out about our trauma, in one way or another, will use that against us. there is no brotherhood that i would say in a civilian community. >> when you see people who have
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gone through, what my previous guest went through, a school shooting, a young man and all the trauma that's happened to him. what do you think of that? what advice would you give him? >> basically he has to take back his life. finding forgiveness, you know, it's more finding forgiveness for himself so he can find peace in his life. he has so much potential that he's able to basically be able to impact and change so many people's lives. >> tony, is that a regular thing, too, if you feel too angry and bitter about what's happened to you, that's a huge barrier to being able to get through it? >> it's not just a barrier to get through it, science shows five minutes of rage, you certainly have the right to have, and what he's been through in his life, will shut down literally your immune system for four hours. what successful people do is they stack victories. that's also what we did with him. we said there's a different set of rules. you can't come as a marine, you've got to come as a guy who was whole. what was it like before.
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when he tapped into the playful guy who has this jump in his step and is laughing, that's when the glasses came off and he said i want people to see my baby blues. people were cheering. he got to feel this connection with people at a human level. that's what changes it. it's also having something you value more than your pain. he values mission. he values being able to make a difference. he needed a new mission back here at home. he has a new mission back here at home. >> good for you. thank you for your service. >> thank you. >> which is still actually ongoing you told me. we wish you all the best for it. more importantly, it was your life and the comeback you've made. extraordinary to see. >> thank you. >> good to see. >> coming next, a man who lost everything and is now worth $50 million. we'll find out how he did it, coming up next. ♪
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president obama is vying to create more jobs in his second term, but right now, millions are americans are still out of work. my next guest knows exactly how they feel. my next guest knows exactly how they feel. mike is a business owner who lost everything in 2008. i mean everything. now he's overcome that financial ruin and runs two businesses with revenues worth $50 million. congratulations. >> thank you. >> it's been a roller coaster ride. you've known tony for 17 years. and you've been up and down in that period of time. >> correct. >> tell me quickly the journey you've been on. >> i started off coming from a very challenging background,
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single mother, raised by a single mother. had no education. and really, no hope. and what i always say, i was lucky that i was put in front of an icon of empowerment. >> he is. every time i interview him, i feel empowered. >> that's true. what he is is an incredible educator. by the grace of the universe i was able to fall in the lap of this educator. he helped get me out of that place where i was, where there was no hope. >> he was homeless at the time. what i love about mike's story, is mike just didn't help himself. he built a small business to start with. one of the young women who worked for him was addicted to meth. is that right? share the story and how you ended up in your new business. >> the young woman had come to work for me a number of years ago. you could tell something was wrong. she was addicted to methamphetamine. she was a daily user of ecstacy. i got her involved in mr. robbins' program. within 30 days, she was completely off drugs.
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it turned out her father, her dad was incredibly successful in the metal recycling business. i got a call from him shortly thereafter who said anybody who has influence over human beings like this i need to do business with. gave up half a million for me to start my company, cosigned, seven months later he allowed me to buy him out. years later, i continued to grow and grow and grow. >> amazing. >> until 2008. >> you built up this $13 million business. and then you literally almost lost it overnight in the big crash of '08. >> it was interesting. four months before the crash, tony calls me and says, mike, you need to prepare. and as everyone in the country kept saying, we're strong. the economists are saying, we're strong. i didn't listen to him. i should have listened to him. >> why wouldn't you listen to tony robbins? >> things were going great. >> that was mainly thanks to him. >> i know. that's true. overnight, as you know, the economy collapses. the metal business completely collapses. >> when that happened to you, and having gone from literally
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nothing, you were a homeless guy to $13 million business, and then it all disappears, what was that like for you? >> i didn't care about losing the material possessions. i had a 3-year-old son at the time. he's now 7. the only thing that was going through my mind was, how do i face my son. from the day he came home from the hospital, i was determined he was not going to grow up in the same environment that i did. and all i wanted to do is have my little boy sit on my lap when he was old enough and say, you know what, there's nothing you can't do. you can become anything. i don't want my boy to look up at me and say, daddy, if that's true, how come you haven't done it? that was what was crushing my heart. i just could not fail. and come up with an excuse for this little boy. >> tony, can anybody be like this? or do you have to have a little bit of ferocity of spirit? >> i think ferocity of spirit is critical for everybody. but we all have it. it's like a muscle. >> do we all have it? >> sure we do. but courage unused becomes weaker.
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determination unused gets smaller. passion unexpressed gets smaller. like any muscle, the more you use it. he's been using it for years. his son, here's the other thing, he had a reason larger than himself. you see the pattern of all the people who have overcome. at the time he said he was worried about his employees and he really cares about his people. here's the secret. but you have to make that shift where it's no longer an excuse. if you give yourself an excuse, humans will take it. if you're going to take the island, you burn the boats. and he burned the boat and said i'm going to find the answer. he shifted to psychology and got the skills. like i said earlier, it's not just confidence. you have to have skill. he had both. he found the way. show them what you did. >> after that particular business mastering program, as tony said, 80% of it is psychology, and 20% of it is mechanics, or the strategies. unless you get the psychology down, the mechanics don't matter. i can tell you, from that day in november of 2008, where i made that decision, that i was not going to fail, and i kissed my lady and said, i'm going back to
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work, and we went out there and i learned how to export. and when there was no market for steel in the united states, i was able to export to several different countries. and we took off from there. we continued to grow. and it was just, again, about a mindset. it's about having a level of pride. for me, it was coming from where i come from, the name didn't mean a whole heck of a lot. i was determined to change that. it's something i call generational influence. i'm not doing this for me. i'm doing this for my son. >> is that good advice, tony? there are millions and millions of americans out of work. many suffering very hurt pride. never mind anything else and real financial hardship. is that a good focus to look at children, to look at other things and say, you know what, stop feeling sorry for myself, it's for him, for her, for that. >> most of the -- i think what's beautiful about most human beings is we'll do more for others we love than we'll ever do for ourselves. and motive does matter.
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if you just try to do something for yourself, you only get a certain level of insight. if you do it for others, it comes to a level of insight. mike got the belief out of business mastery that money is still changing hands. i need to find out where to get that to add value to people's lives. where do i get it and where is that value available? >> what do you say to the people suffering in america right now? >> tony is absolutely right. we need to take the focus off of ourselves and stop feeling sorry about ourselves. it's about serving humanity, it's about serving people. it's all about service. and we have just got to get out there. tony talked about earlier about retooling. it's about learning new skills. when i talked about finding an icon of empowerment, whether it's anthony robbins, whether it's someone like oprah winfrey, a school or university, you need to get in there and learn the new skills. then you've got to get out there and you've got to perform by serving. serving humanity. it isn't about me, it isn't about me making money or dollar amount, it's about protecting the people that i love, the people that i care about.
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if you follow that formula, you cannot fail. >> what i said earlier about bitterness and anger and resentment, self-pity is also a complete waste of time and energy. it's perfectly understandable. all of those emotions are just barriers to getting back on your feet, aren't they? >> that's correct. all emotions serve. anger, frustration, it's all valuable, but not if you live there. all those emotions that create pain, they're designed to get you to change, to do something. if you just sit and live in the emotion, and you don't do anything, the pain just gets deeper and it becomes your groove and your grave. if you shift those emotional states, cl is what we teach people to do, physically, not fake positive thinking, but with a real strategy, a real action plan, that's all business is, add more value than anybody else does and you'll have a chance to win. that's what he's done. >> great story. mike, great inspiration. mike, good to meet you. >> my pleasure. tony gives you five ways to immediately change your life.
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